Components,140gr VLD,Rl 17, Norma brass,fed large rifle primers,any info appreciated!
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Components,140gr VLD,Rl 17, Norma brass,fed large rifle primers,any info appreciated!
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you got everything you need....your rifle will tell you what it likes
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I figured that much cheers,was looking more for an experienced comment,someone who is using rl 17 etc
Alliant Powder - Reloader's Guide
Good place to start.
I use R17 but it's in .243
I get good speed 2900fps with RL15 and 140NBT. Can't remember the load but it's around 44g
What groups are you getting and is it out of of a t3? CheersQuote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
Forgot to mention,gun is a tikka t3,already been thru 50 rounds of bergers,tried rl 17 as well as 2209,so far no luck! Anyone out there with a decent recipe?
49/50 grns 2209 usually works (take care, that's getting to the limit). Have you adjusted the lead to see if that makes a difference? The Berger site gives some advice on this. They can be finicky. You might want to try Nosler BT. They just about always shoot well.
R15 was accurate in my last one but I couldn't get the speed. 2208 is probably the most common powder used in 7/08.
The other thing is that you need to be sipping a Late between test shots, and cock your right little finger slightly while you are firing the rifle.
As above. Seating depth is very important with the bergers. Do test loads at 40 thou intervals as the website suggests and you will find where they shoot best. Ido this with all vld tyle bullets now
As the others have said this morning, look at the seating of the VLDs or swap to a different projectile. If you've shot 50 already and got nowhere it's either that or the scopes bung.Quote:
Originally Posted by mayfly
I've found in my tikka...with the 140gr 2208 works best but when I go up to 162gr 2209 works best......not sure on speed just most accurate in my rifle.
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Funny you mentioned the scope,a friend also suggested it this morning,I hope not its a brand new pm2 sitting in a spuhr mount. Tomorrow will try new projis and swap over scopes and see what happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barefoot
The 140 Nosler BT and Sierra GameKing are easy to get to shoot and kill well. They shoot well with RL15 and 2208 in my Blaser. A friend has similar accuracy with 2209. Forget the Bergers if you're going to have to fuck around so much. They won't kill any better nor will the better BC be realised in a hunting scenario.
May fly. This may help. Am using RL17 in my Kimber 708. 22" barrel. Fed brass and primers 140gr accubonds started at 46gr and up to 49gr and settled on 47 for 1" groups with my lousey shooting. I have no idea what speed they are doing as dont have chrono. Am happy with the 17 as I use it also in 270wsm 300wsm and 7mm saum. kinda one powder fits all. Not about to try it in the 44mag though.
I'm getting great accuracy with 140gr BT's and 2208.
Similar results with 2206h also.
I've just done some development for a Savage Weather Warrior 7/08. Using the Nosler 140 BT, 48gn R17 clocked 2868, group 58mm @ 200M. 47gn N550 did 2900, group 46mm @ 200M. Using the Berger 140VLD, 45.5gn 4007 gave 2763, 1st group went 16mm, 2nd in some wind was 28mm, both shot at 200. I used a seating depth of around .040". CFE gave good performance with the 120NBT.
47.4 of 2209 in my T3 708.
Projectiles I ended up using are Accubonds. Don't know why. Just did.
Had no problems with the grouping breaking it in however I used 139gn GMX and GK I think. Seating depth never did effect accuracy of this rifle although I was happy with 1/2" so I didn't muck around any further.
Scope ok?
Mounts secure?
Good luck bro.
Dan
Sheesh those savages group well. That a factory setup? Looking for the same rifle at the mo. Have only found the 11'sQuote:
Originally Posted by killroy
Not 2209?Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny
Book max is around 42gr for 140gr isn't it? I use 43.2gr and even that's getting there in my T3.
I talk from experience....Your'll regret using RL17. Yes it's fast but it is very temperature sensitive - expect velocity changes of up to 150fps with just a small weather change. Your seemingly safe load will have you trying to pry open the bolt if rounds are left in the sun. A case full of 2209 is where it's at for the 7mm08 with 140's!
The Savage 7/08 was a new pre-Accustock stainless synthetic, not tuned in any way. Accuracy opened my eyes a bit. Did not try 2209 here because I try to avoid compressed loads, have seen projectiles slowly forced back out of case a little by pressure from powder. I wouldn't care to unwittingly chamber and fire such a round. The Savage has a full 3" magazine and is nicely throated to match that.
Yep, that's 2209, thank god I'm not from USA or I'd be right in the shit aye...!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pop Shot
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Yep, 43.5 of 2208 behind a 140 is "plenty" in my experience..
Please, I haven't start load to my 7-08 yet so I am very interested in this discussion.
I have another question, what about the ADI BM2 and AR2213sc? I "may" load mine with some 160-162gn as I have 2x 7mm rem mag too.
Thank you in advance
BM2 will be too fast, and 2213SC I doubt will be much chop either as I doubt you will get enough in the case.
Just wondering how much 17 you were putting in the 708 140s as I have loaded and fired plenty without issues. Unfortunately I dont have chrono so have no clue about weather change effects on speed. Have not had issues with stiff bolt but suppose thats cause ammo not lying in the sun. It follows that if the stuff is that weather/temp sensitive in 708 it will also be in my saum and wsms. Havnt had a problem so far but will be keeping an eye on things. Better get that chrono soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by LJP
I reload for a mates titan and it loves 162sst and 2209....
While my tikka and other mates remington prefer 140gr and 2208.....
No chrono so couldnt tell you speed.
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43.5 gns of 2208 with a 140 gn nosler ballistic tips My T3 is all over that load. Stops deer dead too
+1 (43.2gr though)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan F
Had a play with 150gr long range accubonds. Hit pressure at 41gr 2208 (didnt get pressure until 43gr with 162gr amaxes which is where speeds became erratic and saw signs on brass.
just a point of interest of how pressures vary between projectiles. Best load for amaxes was 41gr lrabs looking like 40gr
What speeds and groups were you getting with the 150gr LRAB?
@distantstalker
Ill confirm speeds next trip to range. Still more than happy with bts just got curious...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pop Shot